“He [Jesus] is the eternal Word born of the Father before time began, one in substance
with the Father, homousios to Patri, through whom all things were made.” General
Editor, Austin Flannery, Vatican Council 11, Volume 2, p. 390.
i. This statement contains two major deadly errors.
a. Jesus’ birth was before time began.
b. Jesus is one in substance (homousios) with the Father.
ii. The actual teaching, as we will see, is the following gross falsehoods.
a. Jesus’ divinity was begotten before time began
b. Jesus’ divinity is a divine substance like the Father has because He was
begotten in His divinity before time began.
c. The Spirit is the same substance of God preceding from the Father and the
Son.
d. Thus God is really one substance, homousios, in three parts/persons, thus
three divine persons.
18. Observe what the Catholic Church teaches the Trinity really means.
“The council of Chalcedon decreed for belief that the Son of God according to His
divinity was begotten of the Father before all ages, and according to His humanity was
born in time of the Virgin Mary.” Ibid, p. 423
“In like manner, the Fourth Lateran Council taught that it is to be believed and confessed
that there is but one true God, Father and Son and Holy Spirit: three persons indeed, but
one essence… the Father proceeding from none, the Son from the Father alone and the
Holy Spirit equally from both, without beginning, always and without end.” Ibid, p. 425
“…the Father who generated, the Son who is generated and the Holy Spirit who proceeds
are consubstantial and co-equal, alike omnipotent and co-eternal… The one and same
Christ the Son of God, begotten before the ages in His divine nature, and also concerning
the eternal persons of the most Holy Trinity, belongs to the immutable truth of the
Catholic faith.” Ibid, p. 425.
i. These things taught regarding the Trinity by the Catholic Church is very clear, we
are being told the following.
a. Jesus has begotten divinity before all ages
b. The Son proceeds from the Father and was generated by Him.
c. The Spirit proceeded from both Father and Son.
d. The Father, Son and Spirit are three divine persons – God and co-equal and
co-eternal.
e. The Three Persons are all of one divine substance (holusios), this is the
substance of God.
19. Again the Catholic Church explains their Trinity doctrine. We are told:
“… the only begotten Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, light from light, true
God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father.” Geoffrey
Chapman, Catholicism of the Catholic Church p. 57.
NOW WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN TEACHINGS IN THE FOLLOWING FACEBOOK BOOK FRIEND, WHO CLAIM HE IS FIGHTING CATHOLIC TRINITY. AND THE ABOVE FALSE CATHOLIC TRINITY DOCTRINE. NO DIFFERENCE SAME TEACHING.
There is One Lord God - the Father. There is one Lord Jesus. Jesus is NOT God Almighty he is the Literal Son - Begotten. NOT CREATED! But begotten - Born. He by inheritance is Divine because he comes from the Father. There is ONE Spirit that the Father has given to His Son and whom the Son gives as a gift to the Believer. The Spirit is the Presence and Power of the Father and the Son.
One true God without a beginning. The source of everything! His Divine Son - Begotten in eternity past before the Creation of the world. Still God because he inherited his Father's nature which IS divine. see book of Hebrews. God is Spirit. Jn.4:24 God is Holy so His Spirit is Holy. One Spirit shared by both Father & Son. 1 Jn.2:22,23
THE TRUTH AS PRESENTED BY THUSIA SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH A REVIVE MOVEMENT.
1. We are told that the invisible things of God like His Divinity are clearly seen by the
things that are made. Romans 1:20.
2. What the Bible clearly tells us about God is the following that can be gleaned from the
Scriptures.
i. God is One. Galatians 3:20; James 2:19
ii. God is invisible. Colossians 1:15; 1Timothy 1:17.
iii. God is Divine. 2Peter 1:4; Romans 1:20
iv. God is Spirit. John 4:24
v. God is God in Nature 2Peter 1:4; Galatians 4:8
vi. God is Love. 1John 4:8,16
3. From the Scriptures we can also glean that there are three persons in which God is
exclusively manifested. 1John 5:7
4. We are told that Jesus is God. 1John 5:20
5. Yet we are told that God was in Christ Jesus. 2Corinthians 5:19
6. The body or person of Christ was human and not divine. Hebrews 2:9,14,16; Hebrews
10:5
7. Thus the three persons in which God is, are not divine persons, but the persons house
the one God that is Spirit. 1John 5:7; Galatians 3:20; John 4:24.
8. The hair of the Father, or His body or person, is white as wool, this is certainly not
divine hair. God is Spirit, not hair or body, and it is this same God who is divine.
Daniel 7:9; John 4:24; Romans 1:20.
9. Again the Bible identifies the Father, the Word, and the Spirit as divine.
i. The Father is divine. 1Timothy 1:2
ii. The Word (Jesus) is divine. John 1:1
iii. The Spirit is divine. 2Corinthians 3:17
10. Thus the divinity of the Father, Jesus the Word and the Holy Spirit is not their persons,
but the divine Spirit Nature that dwells in them. Galatians 4:8; 2Peter 1:4; John 4:24.
11. God also dwells in the converted person, but this does not make the converted person
God. 1John 4:12; Revelation 19:10
12. However, God dwells in the Three Persons in a particular way that gives them the
identification of God. Isaiah 48:12, 13, 15, 16.
13. An example of this “identification” indwelling can clearly be seen in the explanation of
the incarnation of Jesus Christ which has brought “how God dwelt in Him that He is
God” to view.
i. Jesus is identified as coming from Bethlehem, but He is eternal, this is saying
that He is God. Micah 5:2
ii. Jesus is identified as the mighty God and the Everlasting Father, thus He is
God. Isaiah 9:6.
iii. The next points are true:
a. There is Divine Nature-being and reality. Galatians 4:8
b. There is also Divine Character which is the way in which God the divine
Nature is revealed. John 14:6, 7-10.
c. Jesus said that He was identified as the way to God or as the divine character,
John 14:6
d. Jesus said that He is the revelation of God, this is the Character of Christ.
John 1:18.
e. The glory of God (the divine nature) is seen in the face of Jesus (the divine
character). 2Corinthians 4:6
f. Only God can reveal God, thus the character that reveals God is divine.
John 1:18, 1.
g. Only the doctrine of Christ (divine character) has God (the divine nature).
2John 9.
h. This divine Character is Christ who is to dwell in us by Faith that we should
have both Father (Divine Nature, God) and Son (Divine Character) together
indwelling us. Ephesians 3:17; 2John 9.
i. But this divine character is identified as Jesus’ own which He received from
the Father, thus the divine Nature in it is His own, this is how He is God.
John 14:6, 9, 10.
j. This Character of Christ is the Spirit of Christ or Spirit of Truth, thus it
belongs to the Holy Spirit, and therefore the divine nature in that Character
belongs to the Holy Spirit. This shows the Holy Spirit is called God. John
14:16-18; John 15:26; Romans 8:9.
The Character that Jesus received was the Will of the Father, thus, as this
Character is the Father’s Will, it belongs to the Father, thus the divine Nature
in it belongs to the Father, this is how the Father is identified as God. John
5:30; John 10:17, 18.
iv. Thus the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is God because of their Character
identification as divine, thus as God. Isaiah 48:12, 13, 15, 16.
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